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Elgin, KS

Elgin, KS

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Built: 1869 | Abandoned: N/A
Status: EndangeredDisappearing Towns
Photojournalist: Emily CowanJohnny Fletcher

Elgin, KSElgin was founded in 1869 by Lyman P. Getman, with one of the earliest most prominent families in the town coming a few months later. That being the family of Romulus (Rome) Hanks, cousin of Abraham Lincoln’s mother, Nancy Hanks. He died in 1879 and is buried in the Elgin Cemetery. Lyman was given the postmaster position after the post office was established on February 27, 1870, and discontinued on July 30, 1976.

Lyman owned a store in the nearby town of Sedan, Kansas, and established the first store called “Wade & Getman” in the fall of 1870 in the new town. The Atchison, Topeka and Sante Fe railroad established a station at Elgin in 1890. It was a station of importance due to it having a direct connecting line with Chicago, Galveston, and San Fransisco. This made Elgin a giant port of trading and cattle shipping, which helped grow the town quickly. It held many firsts for Chautauqua County including the first school, church, and sawmill. Businesses in Elgin consisted of a flour mill, five general merchandise and hardware stores, two livery stables, nine saloons, and others such as barbers, physicians, surgeons, etc. The first newspaper the Elgin Clipper established in March of 1891 and edited by A.W. Collins.

It surged in residents and businesses over the next twenty years becoming the largest shipping point of southern cattle and an entrepot for the Osage Nation. In 1905 Eugene Hayes and R.W. Black established the first and only cattle plant dipping station at Elgin using Texas crude oil. Right after its completion, the plant dipped two thousand southern cattle in one day. Cattle dipping was meant to remove harmful insects, especially ticks that could carry diseases or kill cattle. Eugene H. attempted to use Kansas crude oil but was denied by the government, they insisted it be Texas crude oil.

“I have tried for some time, to get the Secretary of the Interior to allow me to use Kansas crude oil, but he refused. I do not know why unless he thinks that the sulfur in the Texas oil is more effective,” said Mr. Hayes. By the early 1910s, the cattle shipping industry in Elgin had pretty much dried up. Once many of the pastures used by the Elgin stockyards were given to members of the Osage Tribe and the railroads had expanded well into Oklahoma creating closer ports for the southern cattle to be shipped out from. The town gracefully but reluctantly stepped down from her position which she held for so long as the “Cattle Capital of the World.”

Oil was discovered in Elgin in 1902 and soon the Black Well was erected producing around fifty barrels a day to start. The prospect of oil in Elgin caused another boom in residents and businesses for Elgin. By 1914 it had surged to around eighty-five barrels per day with multiple wells and a new refining company in the talks. By 1920 The Elgin Oil Refining Company had been organized to operate a 1,500 barrel-a-day unit refinery. Harned Bros drilled four wells in 1930 on the Wynona lease southwest of the town where all of them were producing 109 barrels per day. By the end of the 1930s, the oil boom had fizzled out and with the onset of the Great Depression, the town began a slow painful decline over the next 30-40 years. And although its new nickname is “The Town Too Tough to Die” the decline of Elgin is indisputable.

Elgin State Bank 

Built: 1901 Abandoned: 1932

Elgin, KSElgin State Bank was founded and built in the summer of 1901, becoming a very big part of the growing town handling business for thirty years. The abandoned bank has gathered a few stories including bank robbery and embezzlement. The bank closed for liquidation in 1932 as the bank was doing an unprofitable amount of business. It was hoped that conditions would improve but the continued withdrawals of funds made a death sentence for the Elgin State Bank.

The bank was turned over to the Deputy Bank Commissioner and the bank expected to pay all depositors in full in a short time. “The officers and directors have worked hard on our bank and their efforts have been appreciated by the community. The loss from the town will be keenly felt. Perhaps some people could have helped more than they did, but the cause of the closing was in the main part, the condition of the times,” said a resident.

The Weekly Times-Star 11 July 1902

Attempted Bank Robbery; Sheriff Taylor Saves Elgin Bank from Robbery


Six men now in jail and as many more suspects at large. John Swinney, Isaac Swinney, Lane Swinney, Tom Swinney, Geo. Niblock and Robert Niblock all lay in the Chautauqua Co. jail charged with attempting to rob the Elgin State Bank. Besides these men, Bill West, Chas. Clark, Chas. Smith, “Indian Joe,” Od Swinney and “Shorty Bill,” 0r Reed are still at large and wanted for the same crime. According to the facts gained by the officers in the disclosure of the plot it was one of the best arranged crimes ever contemplated in the country. For months the gang has been arranging and plotting until the time should be ripe, but not until last Sunday night did they make up their minds to carry into execution their diabolical work.

The men under arrest were arraigned before a justice of the peace C.M. Ellis Tuesday evening and their preliminary hearing set for Wednesday, July 16 and their bond placed at $1,000 each. The history of the discovery of the plot goes back several months. For several years Sheriff Taylor has suspected the Swinney outfit of being apart of an organized gang of horse and cattle thieves, but could not get his clutches on them. But last winter Taylor got the chance to arrest Od Swinney for a minor crime -petty larceny- and had him in jail for several weeks.

At the time Frank Pendarvis was in jail on a charge of forgery. He had shown a disposition on helping the officers and so Taylor took him out and talked to him explaining that he thought Swinney was apart of the gang of robbers and that he would like for him to get “next” to him if he could. Swinney too Pendarvis into his confidence and told him that the gang was then contemplating a bank robbery and unless they could find an expert “safe cracker” they would have to make a “daylight hold up” of the job.

The Ottawa Herald 17 June 1922

Elgin Bank Robbers Held Cashier 12 Hours, Taking Him to Oklahoma


Bartlesville, Okla.,– D.R. Hall, cashier of the Elgin State Bank was liberated early today on a lonely rod three miles south of Okesa, Okla., after being for more than 12 hours the prisoner of two men who yesterday held up the Elgin State Bank and forced him to accompany them in their dash for safety with $1,500 in cash and an undetermined amount of Liberty bonds. Hall walked to Okesa and telephoned Sheriff Henderson here, whereupon a posse was immediately formed and set out with the expectation that Hall might furnish information which would lead to the capture of the bank robbers.

Hall was not harmed by his abductors, he told local authorities. Anxiety was felt here for the safety of Hall. He was last seen in the bandit var when a posse attempted to engage the fugitives between Bartlesville and Pawhuska. The bandits opened fire on the posse but the fire was not returned for fear of hitting Hall. Some distance from that point the bandits abandoned their car. It was later found by the posse but there was no trace of Hall. Hall and his wife were forced by the bandits to enter the car after the bank had been looted. Mrs. Hall was thrown out, however, about 5 miles from Elgin.

The County Liner and Cedar Vale Commercial 06 October 1922

Elgin Bank Robber Captured–Dick Gregg Identified by Cashier Hall as One of the Desperadoes


One of the pair of bad men who robbed the Elgin State Bank several months ago, was arrested near Pawhuska and positively identified by Cashier Hall and other men who saw him  on the day of the bold robbery. He refused to come to Kansas without requisition papers and is in the Pawhuska jail, where he will remain until Sheriff Powell obtains the necessary documents. It will be remembered that two men robbed the bank and as a matter of protection took Cashier Hall and wife with them on their mad dash for liberty in a Ford runabout.

Mrs. Hall was released about five miles south of Elgin and was instructed to tell the following posse not to follow too closely or they would kill her husband. They kept Mr. Hall with them nearly all night, Mr. Hall said the posse was so near them once that he could hear them talking, but he was told not to let out a cry or he would be murdered.

The Fredonia Weekly Herald 27 April 1923

$40,000 EMBEZZLEMENT CAUSES 2 BANKS TO CRASH — Cashier Keeps Deficit Hidden For Two Years – Disclosures Made Causes Both Banks To Close CHAUTAUQUA BANK CLOSES


With Closing of Elgin State Bank Yesterday Chautauqua State Bank Goes to Wall This Morning

Topeka, April 26- As a result of the closing yesterday of the Elgin State Bank, the Chautauqua State Bank went down in a crash today when the state bank commissioner, Carl J. Peterson, ordered it closed. J.R. Burns, the cashier of the bank closed yesterday was president of the bank ordered to close today. Both institutions are in Chautauqua County near the Oklahoma border, seven miles apart. Although J.R. Burns, cashier of the Elgin State Bank had successfully concealed from the state bank examiners for the past two years a defalcation of $40,000, he decided to make a complete confession of his misdeed.

He came to Topeka today, laid his story before State Bank Commissioner Carl Peterson, declared his willingness to return home and enter a plea of guilty of embezzlement and do what he can to make up the shortage. Commissioner Peterson ordered the bank to close and assigned a deputy bank examiner to accompany Burns back to Caney, the county seat, where according to Commissioner Peterson, Burns will be arraigned in court probably tomorrow. Examiners at once will go over the bank’s books and ascertain the exact status. Whether there are losses in addition to the $40,000 will not be known until the examination is completed.

Burns stated that for two years he has been endeavoring to refund the bank, but has failed. The money, he stated was used as a personal loan to a contractor who was unable to repay him. Burns chose to make the revelation today, he said, because a state bank examiner was due to arrive on Friday. Four previous examinations failed to uncover the shortage. The bank had deposits of $200,000, was capitalized at $25,000, and surplus $5,000. It is possible that arrangements can be made to re-open the bank without liquidation, it was said. Elgin State Bank is under the protection of the state guarantee fund.

Olive Lodge No. 350 Ancient Free and Accepted Masons

Elgin, KSBuilt: 1905 Abandoned: 1971

Built in 1905 the Olive Lodge No. 350 of the Ancient Free and Accepted Masons served Elgin for decades. Records show a few Master’s of Olive Lodge being Chester C. Houston, who came to Elgin in 1892, being the Master of the Olive Lodge in its early years and H.C. Bowhan in the ’20s. It seems at least in its early years that the first floor was the lodge and the upper floor was a living quarter according to a snippet from a newspaper below.

The Weekly Times-Star March 12, 1909 “sell to the highest bidder for cash in hand, lot eleven in block twelve of Carpenter’s addition to the town of Elgin, together with the lower story of the stone building situated thereon and all the appurtenances thereunto belonging, subject, however to the rights of Olive Lodge No. 350 as created by a lease and right to maintain the upper story subject also to a mortgage of $400 to Alexander Bryan. All of the property is duly appraised at the sum of $1,550.”

In December 1930 a contract was given to C.C. Houston by the lodge to have their rooms repapered and repainted. Artist E.C. Puckett was hired to also work on the project of sprucing up the lodge rooms. The Olive Lodge had regular meetings and held ceremonies for new Master Masons. The Elgin Journal Nov. 3, 1921, On Wednesday afternoon and night of last week the Lodge completed the work that made Master Masons of Carl Fuhs, Allen Clinkscales, David McCorkle, and Darrell Shinn. In order to show everybody a good time the lodges at Sedan, Cedar Vale, and Caney were invited to participate in the work and they accepted a hundred of them and everybody enjoyed themselves. 

Elgin Lodge No. 350 is making preparations to entertain their Brother Masons at their annual meet on Monday October 15, and at their stated communication on Wednesday, October 3rd they desire every member of the lodge to be present if possible. We understand the Eastern Star Lodge will serve another of their fine six o’clock dinners on the 15th and every Mason in the county knows they are fine, and the officers want to urge upon the membership to be present on Wednesday night of next week so that all arrangments will be complete.

Members of the lodge would attend elections in December to elect new officers for the new year. Officers appointed by Olive Lodge No. 350 for the year of 1932 included: Charles H. Anderson as Worshipful Master, F.E Barnett as Senior Warden, E.E. Shipley as Junior Warden, Frank Potter as Treasurer, J.V. Fralick as Secretary, Frank Revelette as Senior Deacon, George E. Hessert as Junior Deacon, and George Rucker as Tylor. The lodge disbanded and transferred to the Vesper-Olive Lodge #136 in Sedan.

Elgin Grace Episcopal Church

Built: 1905 Abandoned: 1956

Elgin, KS
Elgin Episcopal Church ca. 2002
Provided by Robert Cox

The Elgin Grace Episcopal Church was an abandoned store in 1904 when eight women who didn’t have a place to worship saw a vision. The Bishop offered $50 towards the purchase of the building, over the next year and a half the building underwent $600 in renovations and updating. The date 1905 was engraved above the door, six arched windows were installed and the inside was fully renovated.

On March 09, 1906, at 10 a.m. the Elgin Episcopal Church conducted a wonderful Consecration service. Within a few weeks, the congregation had grown to seventeen adults and eight children baptized. Rev. R.C. Talbot, the Rector in charge, held service once a month and a Sunday School every Sunday. The church dissolved in 1956 and members transferred to other neighborhood churches or the Episcopal Church in nearby Sedan. The Grace Episcopal Church was sold in 1962 and used as hay storage.

Elgin Downtown

Elgin, KS
Elgin Downtown ca. ~1910’s

Many of the buildings on the downtown strip have fallen to the ground or into extreme disrepair. Only three original buildings dating back to the early 1900s still stand at the time of this article being written. The downtown strip sits on Grand Avenue and grand it is, featuring a large and wide brick road.

Geo Rucker General Merchandise

Built:~1908 Status: Demolished

Elgin, KS
Geo. Rucker General Merchandise Provided by Sam Mittman ca. 1979

Geo. Rucker General Merchandise and Dry Goods was presumably built around 1908 when George Rucker was prominent in Elgin. In November 1909 George Rucker Dry Goods & Groceries was listed as one of the businesses in Elgin. Although little is known about the store itself George “Geo” Rucker was most well known for the trouble he caused that would oftentimes end up displayed in the local papers.

The Freemans Lance 15 Aug 1894, reported “Last week James Rucker, L.L. Crossfield, and George Rucker were arrested by the U.S. Marshall for selling whiskey to the Indians. The trial took place in Independence. The Indians were not acquainted with those men and no evidence was found so the court had to release the parties.” Just a year later Geo. Rucker and his brother got into a true Wild West shootout.

The Freemans Lance 28 Feb. 1895 got the story, “Last week a telegram was received by the Sheriff calling him to Elgin at once, as things were in a chaotic state there. One of the Rucker boys who got in a row with Bob Register, claiming he was selling Boone Hampton, whom George was on his bond, too much whiskey. This was denied by Register and taken as an insult. Rucker now expressed himself in a language more forcible than elegant and was willing to back it up with his gun.

Register got his gun and as Rucker was coming back when he got in front of the Hudson House firing begun-Register being in front of the Lawson Hotel. James Rucker also took a hand and the bullets flew thick and fast, as both hotels bear evidence of the fact. The only damage done to anyone is to George Rucker who was shot in the leg. They had their preliminary trial before Justice Wait who bound Geo. Rucker and Register over to the district court bond being fixed at $500 each. There was not sufficient evidence to hold James Rucker.”

George Rucker was arrested again on charges of selling liquor on Sept. 30, 1915, by Sheriff Powell and was released on a bond of $500. But it was in 1902 when Rucker and his wife went to Independence that the businessman and criminal saw the fate for Elgin. Saying that “Elgin has lost all chance for another railroad and as soon as the proposed roads are put through the reservation south of there, the noted shipping point for cattle will be a thing of the past.”

Margaret’s Cafe

Built:~1908 Abandoned: 1993

Elgin, KS
Margaret’s Cafe and Museum Provided by Kansas Geological Survey ca. 1980’s

The building itself is one of 3 remaining in the downtown strip. The last business that resided inside was Margaret’s Cafe, which was the last business in Elgin, sporting a sign with the towns’ motto reading “Elgin A Town Too Tough To Die”. Before it was Margaret’s Cafe it was simply Elgin Cafe that opened up in 1962.

Ran by Margaret and Leonard Roberts, Margaret was well known for her home-style cooking, hospitality, and homemade desserts. Next door to the Cafe was a museum storefront, the Roberts lived upstairs. “I seem to recall a pair of chaps purported to be Belle Star’s. I best remember the huge head of a black longhorn steer mounted over the doorway. The plaque stated his name as “Blackie” and that he had roamed the surrounding hills for many years,” said Shawn Adley. The cafe walls were covered in old newspapers and photographs depicting the town’s rich history, it was a stopping point for all visitors.

Elgin Historical Museum

Built: ~1908 Abandoned: 1995

Elgin, KS
Elgin Downtown Strip, Museum pictured second to left. ca. 1981 Provided by Daniel Kalal

James Shirley Brim was instrumental in establishing the Elgin Historical Museum that stood next to the Margret’s Café.  It opened its doors on July 4, 1965, during Elgin’s Homecoming and Reunion Celebration.  The museum closed its doors in 1995 following a public auction of its contents,” said Jim Chase, a local historian.




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Ken Gilliland
Ken Gilliland
3 months ago

Margaret’s Cafe

Not sure who Margaret and Leonard Roberts are, but my Aunt Margaret (Riley) Brim ran the cafe in Elgin. She was married to James Shirley Brim (we always called him Uncle Shirley). I remember one vacation traveling from Los Angeles, California to visit relatives in Kansas and including my aunt and uncle in 1958 (I was age 10). As I remember my sister and I spent the weekend with them sleeping next to the cafe on the second floor.

Santford Craig
Santford Craig
4 months ago

Santford Craig My Grandfather worked in the Saloon across from the Elgin Hotel. He told me that Elgin was refered tp as Bloody Elgin. He was working the night Bob Register was killed that was mentioned in the above article. Some men were playing poker in the lobby of the Elgin Hotel. When shots rang out he went across the street to see what happened. Bob Register was dead at the top of the stairs. Sherrif Gid Coffey was lying dead on the stairs.. an argument broke out between Register and a man named Leighee. Leighee went up to his… Read more »

Bryan Talley
Bryan Talley
1 year ago

I live in Elgin,Kansas and have for 3 years I absolutely love it, does it have its issues YES but what town or city doesn’t. My family has been in chatqua County since the Indians lived freely. My great great great uncle owned the bank last befor it was sold to the family who owns it today. My dad grew up a few miles down the road same with his mom and about 12 more generations of my family. It’s a great place to live if you love being in the middle of nowhere.

Synnove Talley
Synnove Talley
Reply to  Bryan Talley
11 months ago

Is some of the town still being used?

David Widound
David Widound
1 year ago

My Great Aunt Carrie Rost taught school in Elgin in 1921. Before that she taught at the Hewin School. Her father farmed near Sedan prior to selling the farm in 1919. He moved to Fort Collins, CO and died later that year.

Debi Fararr
Debi Fararr
Reply to  David Widound
7 months ago

Does your Great Aunt have pictures of the old school house? We are working on our family history. My Great Aunt and Uncle lived in Elgin forever. Wess and Lizzie Wall. We grew up playing all over Elgin. My Dad has relatives in the Elgin Cemetery.

Eric Barbee
Eric Barbee
2 years ago

My uncle Don Barbee lived just down the street from the bank. The only time i actually made it out there was 40 years ago.

Douglas L Hemmingway
Douglas L Hemmingway
3 years ago

I’m wondering if Elgin can be preserved and restored? I got that idea watching Brent Underwood’s GHOST TOWN LIVING on YouTube. I am looking for a small property to purchase in an owner financed situation. Even if I am unable to do like Brent I would like to at least have a place in the town so that it won’t completely die just yet.

Tim
Tim
Reply to  Douglas L Hemmingway
2 years ago

Before I would invest in Elgin, I would make sure you can find a solution to the water problem. The source of the Elgin public water is the MOST lime ridden water I have ever encountered. I frankly don’t know how it passes regulation. I you fill a bucket with water, it will have a lime grime the next day. If you drink it, you end up more thirsty. I lived in the town as a kid, and we never drank the water.

Clayton Coltharp
Clayton Coltharp
Reply to  Douglas L Hemmingway
1 year ago

Pros: Decent brick roads & reliable sewer system inside of the town. Possible fiber optic hook up for internet if you want to start a business. Cons: Hard water. no gas stations or grocery stores within forty five minutes, unfriendly local government to business. You only have one paved road going out to civilization (Oklahoma). Chautauqua County maintains all of the other roads leading into Elgin. The county government has made all of them rocky farm roads. Elgin had passed a special tax to pave the road from Elgin to Chautauqua; however, the county government took over the road maintenance… Read more »

Santford Craig
Santford Craig
Reply to  Clayton Coltharp
4 months ago

Maybe need to figure out to have a special election and take it over for the people.

Santford Craig
Santford Craig
Reply to  Douglas L Hemmingway
4 months ago

That would be nice. If you close your eyes you may hear some Texas Cowboys driving cattle . Just to say this is my land by damn. Maybe we could try to open a saloon even though the first attempt failed. ELGIN MUST NOT DIE. Want to go back there this summerWill wear my .44mag ,polish my boots, and get a western hat first. have a friend whos grandson lives there. Understand there is a cultural center there with pictures and history. Wonder if my grandfather has any pics there. Know just a few stories of Elgin told to me… Read more »

Brittany
Brittany
Reply to  Douglas L Hemmingway
1 month ago

They have auctions for houses needing bought out or land I live in Elgin currently

Peggy
Peggy
3 years ago

My great grandfather owned one of the livery stables in Elgin, and it’s such a shame that it’s history is almost lost. Many of my relatives ended up in Sedan. Thanks for an interesting article.

Santford E. Craig
Santford E. Craig
Reply to  Peggy
4 months ago

² when I was just a puppy my dad took my grandfather his best friend, my great uncle, my brother and I to Elgin. Delivery that I remember was only a block or so west of the Elgin Hotel, for the Elgin hotels once stood and across the street north was a saloon or my grandfather used to work. It is well what’s gone. At that time the prices were still on the wall. Back of that livery is where my grandfather had a gun pulled on him over a girl thing he said. He world and punch the guy… Read more »

Santford E. Craig
Santford E. Craig
Reply to  Santford E. Craig
4 months ago

Will return to the town to tough to die. That used robe posted on a sign east of Elgin

Robin Andersen
Robin Andersen
3 years ago

where is elgin located at

Timothy Coltharp
Timothy Coltharp
Reply to  Robin Andersen
3 years ago

You can find it with a google map search. Very tiny. The mapping cars never come through though.

Clayton Coltharp
Clayton Coltharp
Reply to  Timothy Coltharp
1 year ago

Just saying hello Tim for future generations. We used to live next to the old water tower before they finally demolished it and replaced it with a new one on top of the overlooking hill north of the town.

Douglas L Hemmingway
Douglas L Hemmingway
Reply to  Robin Andersen
3 years ago

Southwest of Sedan, Kansas in Chautauqua County, Kansas. It’s nearly in the southwest corner of Chautauqua County.

Sam Mittman
Sam Mittman
4 years ago

I am so glad to see your excellent article about Elgin and to learn about the Rucker store. Thank you so much for sending me the link.

Don Shuff
Don Shuff
4 years ago

When I was 10 my dad drove me by this town at 3 n the morning on his way to work. I remember him waking me up and asking me if I wanted to c a ghost town 1982

Marvin Shirley
Marvin Shirley
4 years ago

My parents went to dances there on a regular basis in the 50’s. Does anyone know where the dances were held?

Sharon Edwards
Sharon Edwards
4 years ago

I remember my folks going to dances over there and they were always in the street. In fact i think i was maybe 11 or 12 when a boy first asked me to dance. I ask my mom what i should do and she said if i wanted to dance then do it. So that was the very first time i ever danced with a boy.

Don Miller
Don Miller
4 years ago

This almost seems to be a Kansas phenomenon! Lots of little towns abandoned and falling into the earth! All of the dreams that go along with this happening makes me sad!

Becky Libhart
Becky Libhart
4 years ago

Thank You for the history and pictures. It is wonderful to learn about Kansas❣

Roger Burnett
Roger Burnett
4 years ago

I plan on going to Elgin soon. I have an old Smith & Wesson revolver that belonged to an Elgin resident in 1883. Elgin was a rough & tumble cow town in those days. A hide out for several gangs including the Daltons.

Fred Funk
Fred Funk
4 years ago

The old livery stable had the price for renting a horse to go into Indian Territory.

Roger Burnett
Roger Burnett
Reply to  Fred Funk
4 years ago

Indian Territory was on the south side of main street in Elgin. Cowboys would sit on the Territory side and shoot lights and windows out across the street. What ever law there was left them alone.

John Savoy
John Savoy
4 years ago

Are these places being taxed out of existence or just bypassed by state and interstate highways? I remember many great small towns when I was a boy.

Timothy Coltharp
Timothy Coltharp
Reply to  John Savoy
3 years ago

I grew up in Elgin. The basic answer is there are no good jobs. If you are a farmer you have a source of income, but no one else can make a living there As cars improved and globalization made importing cheaper than local, first everyone started shopping in Sedan and by the 90s everyone started shopping in Bartlesville or Arkansas City. By the 2010s, roads and cars were so reliable, even regular shopping trips to Wichita and Tulsa were becoming normal. According to my mother, the town leadership were also pretty greedy. Whenever someone wanted to start something new,… Read more »

Charlotte Cline
Charlotte Cline
Reply to  Timothy Coltharp
3 years ago

I’m moving to elgin soon. Hope the water isnt as bad as you say. Will have to deal with I guess.

Clayton Coltharp
Clayton Coltharp
Reply to  Charlotte Cline
1 year ago

If you are looking for a peaceful, quiet country life, Elgin is definitely a town for you. Unlike some of the other towns in Chautauqua County, Elgin has decent brick streets and a reliable sewer system. My younger brother Tim is correct about Elgin’s water when we were living there. You did not drink the water; you chewed it. The water may have improved some after we left in the 1990s and when Elgin replaced it with a new water tower standing on the northwest overlooking hill where the cemetery resides. The old water tower used to leak all of… Read more »

Santford Craig
Santford Craig
Reply to  Charlotte Cline
4 months ago

How is Elgin now?????????

Jean Horn
Jean Horn
4 years ago

Elgin was pretty well a ghost town by the time I was in high school in the late forties. I do remember they had Sat night dances that were said to be wild and wooly. Bill and I often want dancing there on Sat night. It had a rep as being wild,but it was just a local band playing country western music. I think there was illegal liquor in the cars outside. Ks was a dry state then. Local drums guitar and fiddle band. Had a rep as being, but really pretty tame.

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